Tom: “I totally agree with the AARR squad…7 for 3 seems lopsided enough, but I ran the numbers and projected value (for the rest of 2010) of the 7 guys that Tim is getting is $114- Drew’s 3 guys – $44!! Come on man!!
I think the trade needs to be reworked with some guys coming out of Drew’s end (Loney would be logocal as a start) or more active/real guys from Tim’s side being added in…otherwise I say we vote and I vote veto.”
Steve: “way unbalanced, I vote for veto”
Steve (later): “On second look, it isn’t so bad.
Drew is cashing in for next year…Jurrjens, Bruce, and Nolasco are up, Utley is hurt and $36, and Kuroda just isn’t that good.
Street is a $10 closer, Cashner is a $5 keeper, and Prado is one of the best young players in baseball and $10.
On the other hand, Tim has protected guys a lot more expensive than Utley before, and Loney and Escobar are both protectable at not much more money. Kuroda isn’t sexy, but he’s projecting to 14 wins and an ERA under 4 with over 150 Ks for only $14.
I still say veto.”
Me: “I believe the problem with the trade is that, with possible exception of Prado vs. Escobar, every player received by Tim is, and likely will always be, better than anyone received by Drew, regardless of the length of contract. And Drew received 4 fewer “less-notables”.
Tim received a #2 and two #3 starters, plus four starting position players for a lesser 2B, a recovering closer, and a young middle-reliever.
I’m not hung up on the 7-for-3, it’s just that the 3 should have been of the ilk of Lincecum, Pujols, and a top prospect. Drew’s proposal or not, that sort of trade is very unbalanced and not good for our league, and it’s too bad that the rest of the league feels obligated to monitor the future of Drew’s squad.
And Utley is VERY protectable at $36.”
Stan: “Rework or veto. Unless you guys want me to trade half my roster to Barry for Strasburg.
Seriously, rework or veto.”
Hersh: “I can’t offer a legal opinion on this trade, because sodomy is regulated on a state level. That said, I agree that it should not go through. Drew acquires two guys with one year left, each of whom may charitably have ten dollars of equity. He also gets a prospect with a $5 salary, whom I guess he will keep, but I’m not sure why, other than some inexplicable pro-Cubs bias that permeates the entire league. In exchange he gives away three solid middle-of-the-order hitters and three #2 or #3 starters. This is completely disregarding Utley (which seems a reasonable thing to do, based on salary and injury). That’s just too much. Even if you accept that Drew’s goal is to dump and that his expiring contracts are comparatively worthless, he should only need to trade half of this group to acquire a package of that quality. Throwing those other guys in is unfair to Andy, Mark, and Tom, each of whom would presumably give up some keepers to get the rest of those guys.”